Support for an English Parliament is growing

by Chris | 3 Mar 2010 | 8 Comments

Over the past decade, support for an English Parliament has grown, from 18% to 29% – and 40% believe that the current “Barnett forumla” system is unfair.

The way devolution has been set up to work currently is untenable. There is a massive democratic deficit as Scotland and Wales both have:

  • Their own Parliament or Assembly with various law-making powers
  • More MPs than their population justifies
  • Scotland and Wales benefit massively from the Barnett formula, gaining £1-1.5k extra per person every year – all paid for by English taxes!

There is no denying that the current system with a Scottish Parliament and Welsh and NI Assemblies is not acceptable and not democratic. This is also exascerbated by the fact that MPs in Scotland and Wales still represent smaller constituencies than those in England.

The crux of the issue is that people in Scotland and Wales have two votes – one for Holyrood or Cardiff and another for Westminster, whilst those in England have just one, for Westminster. That alone is undemoctratic, and when Scotland and Wales have more MPs than their population warrants, it becomes even more so. It may have been justifiable before devolution, but no longer.

The Barnett formula is wrong because it is not based on any form of need, but purely on population, and drastically skewed towards Scotland and Wales.

We need proper and fair devolution. And we need it soon, before support for an English Parliament grows to a level where it becomes massively divisive to the country. Properly thoughtout and well-implemented devolution will ensure that the United Kingdom remains united for another three hundred years.

England cannot and must not be ignored in the devolution debate. Although support is not yet so high as to make it a serious poliical issue for this general election, if nothing is doine to address it, by the next general election (or the one after that) it certainly could be.

8 Comments »

  • Toque said:

    I think that the BSA figures contained within the IPPR report underestimate support for an English parliament and/or a Westminster solution to the WLQ.

    The BSA survey also found that 61% thought it was wrong for Scottish MPs to vote on English laws, so the 49% in England who apparently favour the Status Quo probably only do so on the proviso that Scottish MPs are banned (interesting that support for the Status Quo has fallen below half for the first time ever).

  • Stephen Gash said:

    “We need proper and fair devolution.”

    If you mean that England must be sacrificed and bust up into regions (already rejected by the people) for the sake of the Union, then I choose England to remain and the UK to disappear.

    The 1998 Devolution Act made provision for Scottish regions, but they don’t have them.

    Regions have been an expensive disaster for England.

  • Chris (author) said:

    Stephen, no I don’t mean that England must be sacrificed. I am implacably opposed to the “regions” idea.

    England is a country and needs to remain as one – and with proper devolution, it can do.

  • First Class posts on Wednesday | Letters From A Tory said:

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  • AGilinsky said:

    As a Scot who is vehemently opposed to the Scottish Parliament I can tell you a few things.

    1) You do not want an English Parliament. It will be an expensive disaster.

    2) England (like all the other constituent nations) is not a country. It is a nation, one of four which makes up the country of the United Kingdom.

    3) Scotland and Wales get more money because they are poorer and more deprived. Seriously, it’s like complaining that Birmingham gets too much of our tax money.

    4) If you believe 29% is a mandate for anything then you need to be checked into the “George W. Bush centre for the electorally challenged.”

  • Michele said:

    AGilinsky – do you know what the support for a Welsh Assembly was – when it was steamrolled through? A mere 25% I believe. It appeared to be more than enough to be termed a ‘majority’ – for the Welsh at least.

    And while this survey gives a figure of 29%, I like Toque believe that the figures vastly underestimate for the real support for an EP – other more reflective surveys have put the support as high as 69% – Even Tony Blair understood that if the people in England were asked if they wanted a Parliament for England they answer would be a resounding ‘Yes’.

    I think I understand what a mandate actually means – I just wonder if you do?

  • Chris (author) said:

    AGilinsky, we want an English Parliament because the current situation leaves England with a massive democratic deficit. And as the Scottish and Welsh devolved bodies were voted in with significantly less than 50% support, 29% should be enough t start politicians thinking. I didn’t suggest that this 29% meant we should have an English Parliament NOW, but that in a Parliament or two (so over the next four to ten years), support will grow to a level that CANNOT be ignored.

    Scotland Wales DON’T get more money because they are poorer and more deprived; they get it because the Barnett formula only pays attention to population-based spending. Were the extra payments in Scotland and Wales based on need, there would be much less argument against it. But it’s not.

  • Urbe Politicus said:

    I am not British but have been watching the UK election since late 2008. That poll that Toque showed indicates less than half favor the present configuration (though it is a plurality).

    The trend towards greater public favor of an EP seems pretty strong too.

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